Church leader Steve Chalke is well known for his support of same-sex relationships. Ed Shaw is a same-sex attracted Christian whose traditional biblical convictions have led him to remain celibate. They discuss how churches should treat those in their congregation who are LGBT.

Jayne Ozanne, an evangelical and former member of the Archbishop’s council - who recently came out as gay - joins by phone and we hear the story of Rosaria Butterfield’s journey from lesbian activist English professor to becoming wife of a church pastor.