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Rowan Williams led the Anglican Church for 10 years. He reflects on his journey of faith, and the trials and joys of his time in office in a wide ranging interview with Justin Brierley.

Find out why he briefly considered becoming a Catholic, what he makes of new atheists like Richard Dawkins, the debate on penal substitution and whether he has had doubts about God.

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