This episode was recorded shortly before Russia invaded Ukraine. Prior to the outbreak of war, Ukraine’s lax surrogacy laws have made it a major destination for so-called ‘reproductive tourism’ for infertile and same-sex couples who wish to have a baby.

Bioethicist John Wyatt and his journalist son Tim Wyatt join Justin to talk about the ethics of reproductive technology as they launch their new podcast ‘Matters Of Life And Death’.

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