Justin went backstage at the Bethinking Apologetics Conference last week to record a show with one of the speakers - Professor Gary Habermas and an atheist listener to Unbelievable? Geoff Campos.

Habermas is Distinguished Professor of Apologetics and Philosophy at Liberty University, Virginia. Campos is an atheist convinced of materialism with a background in biological science.

They discuss why Geoff finds the concept of the miraculous incoherent, what it would take to convince him of a miracle, the resurrection of Jesus, Near Death Experiences and more.

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