Christians normally explain away human-caused suffering by pointing to God giving us free will, and our sinful natures using that to harm ourselves and each other. But what about all the things entirely out of our control which cause so much sadness, from natural disasters to genetic diseases? In this episode we interview apologist and neuroscientist Sharon Dirckx about the origins of evil and how Christians can sensitively respond to objections to faith based in suffering. And, we consider the role of apologetics in general – should we still be doing traditional proclamational evangelism centred on knocking down intellectual objections to faith at all, or is that a 20th-century approach which no longer cuts through?